By Kevin Meyer
Bill's post on Steve Jobs earlier today drew quite a bit of response – from both sides. Lots of supporting comments on the post itself, lots of emails presumably to both of us saying, to put it politely, the opposite. A few wondered why I even "allow" Bill to post such stuff.
I do have a partial difference of opinion with Bill on Steve Jobs; more on that later. First I wanted to clarify a couple of things for those of you who thought it was inappropriate or that I should exercise some additional editorial control.
Those of you that know me well know that I thrive on being challenged, mentally, philosophically, and otherwise. I like my job because I have a staff and peer group, and an industry, that challenges me every day. I purposely read newspapers and online material from the extreme opposite end of the political spectrum from me – which in my case exists on both sides – because it challenges my thinking and mental models. I ran a marathon this year to prove to myself I could – and next year I might just be wacky enough to try this. For over 20 years I've had an annual goal to visit two new countries and try something completely different – and I've done it every year. And I'm better because of it, at least in my own mind.
When I first met Bill many years ago he challenged my thinking. And he still does – with every post and every conversation. Sometimes I may not agree with or like what he says, but it sets those neurons a firing. And that's good. As you recently read in one of my posts, I believe that questioning conventional thinking, the status quo, even "settled science" is necessary to improve. Anyone that doubts that should read the story of today's Nobel Prize winner in Chemistry. Bill, unlike many consultants and so-called "thought leaders," has lived in the real world – running real manufacturing operations in real companies around the world. We read a lot of mumbo jumbo from people who have never had to implement – and live with – the theoretical crap that spews out of their heads. Bill, and I, have been in the trenches.
There are a few people in life that get the emotions boiling and the juices flowing. Bill Waddell can be one of them; another is Pamela Anderson, with apologies to my loving wife. (Yes I've waited years to put Bill and Pamela together in a sentence.) Maybe I should add Paul Krugman to the list, and now that we're talking about idiots let's add the gal at Starbucks who refused my money a few years ago. Yes I do read Krugman's articles to challenge my thinking, although I then usually laugh and roll my eyes. Sometimes I do that to Bill's posts.
The point is that you learn from being challenged, and Bill does that to us a few times a week. If you don't like it, tough noogies. I do, and I know a few thousand others that similarly like the challenge. I wish I could find some dude that truly believed MRP or China was the answer to all production ills to really broaden the challenge, but I haven't been able to find one brave enough to join us.
Now on to Steve Jobs. There is one part of Steve, a very big part, where I completely agree with Bill. Steve and Apple did not exhibit manufacturing excellence – they executed a very traditional "chase low cost labor" supply chain excellently. That's fairly easy to do if you have the profit margins to fund planeloads of engineers to go to China every week to oversee hoards of underpaid people and to beg them to not jump off of factory buildings. But it was still a very traditional supply chain and "manufacturing" operation.
I wonder what would have happened if the incredible design innovation that Apple, and by proxy Steve, exhibits had been equally applied to manufacturing and the supply chain. Doing the unconventional, finding the best path. Would Toyota and TPS be a distant memory and we'd be benchmarking Apple and APS? Only dreams at this point.
Now some of you are now saying "innovation?" Like the guy who made the comment about "it's just a transister" or Bill's statement that it's just a computer or just a pair of earbuds. Innovation doesn't have to be a "thing." In fact it usually isn't. In Apple's case the innovation was and is how those things interact with and add value to humans.
I'll illustrate this with a handful of stories about my direct and slightly indirect interaction with Apple. Let's begin with Steve Jobs himself.
Steve by all accounts isn't exactly a nice person – if you consider "nice" to be calm and tender in demeanor. If you read some history on Bell, Edison, and Franklin you'll discover those luminaries of invention weren't either. In fact they were basically tyrants. So maybe Jobs does belong as part of that group.
But perhaps Jobs is also a tyrant along the lines of our lean buddy Shigeo Shingo – known for his outbursts and rage. Of course the lean community excuses such supposedly "disrespectful to people" attitude as "teaching" and "not accepting anything less than perception." What a perfect segue into my first story.
A friend of mine worked at Apple until very recently when he left to move overseas to follow his woman. A couple years ago he told me the story of when he stepped into an elevator at Apple HQ and before he could turn around in walked Steve Jobs. They went up a couple floors – in his words the longest elevator ride of his life. Steve asked him what project he worked on, my friend told him, and Steve proceeded to yell and scream at the status of the project. My friend felt flattened for days… until it dawned on him that he wasn't being personally criticized, but the project was. And it wasn't really a criticism, but a challenge to do it better, to find a better way. And several weeks later, in typical Steve Jobs micromanagement style, he received a followup call and was able to discuss the better way he had discovered.
My very first experience with an Apple was with the Apple II in high school – yep that dates me. Unlike the TRS-80 that also existed in our brand new computer lab, the Apple didn't require finetuning the volume control on a tape recording to load programs at 300 bits per second. (not kb, not MB…). And I soon learned to draw a square on the screen! Woo hoo… but it just worked. A few years later, while on co-op making chocolate bars and boullion cubes at Nestle in Connecticut, I got to play on an Apple Lisa. One of the first graphical interfaces, with a funny mouse thing. Sure beats typing DOS commands. A computer that began to think like me. Visually. Xerox PARC technology applied to the real world.
A little over three years ago, March 2nd, 2008 to be precise, I dumped my almost-new Dell laptop for a Mac. I had had it with the excruciating PC experience. I was dreading connecting the new Mac to the printer hanging off my wireless network as for other reasons I had a rather complex setup. Helping a PC navigate through two routers with different passwords to find the HP printer usually took hours… then after a few weeks the PC would strangely lose it's way. I turned on the Mac, went to printers, and it immediately said "would you like to connect to the HP Photosmart on your network?" Uh… yes, thanks. It just worked. And it still does.
Here's another one: I have a 90 year old neighbor lady who switched from a PC to a Mac two years ago. Really. She's a wicked smart gal who has sailed the world and worked for presidents and generals, but her PC drove her nuts. So one day she called up the Ride On bus and had it take her to the Apple store fifteen miles away, and came home with a Mac. And to this day she still takes the bus down there once a week for a class on some subject or another. In fact, just last night she was telling me how she learned how to make calendars and cards. And she made a point of telling me how the folks at the Apple store never push her to buy anything, they just want to help her learn how to use the technology. Enabling the technology to work – creating value for the customer. Not pushing the sale.
Apple didn't invent the computer, or the mouse, or the graphical interface… or the portable music device or even tablet computer. Those really are just "things." But they did reinvent how they worked with people. As Chris Taylor at CNN puts it, Steve Jobs saved technology from itself.
Real innovation isn't a thing. It's a thing that adds value, that changes our lives. There's a reason why Apple folks stand in line to get the latest products – because they know those products will change how they operate.
The iPod isn't just a portable music player. It is a device that allows for easy recall and genre categorization of vast amounts of music. That was then coupled with iTunes to disrupt the traditional music business – and let people experience a far wider variety of music – with thousands of additional artists getting a chance to be heard.
The iPhone isn't just a phone. It lets you hold your music with a phone thereby eliminating a device, then it seamlessly links contacts, a nice browser, eventually a camera and HD movie recorder – thereby eliminating even more devices. Who buys a standalone pocket camera these days? But the real beauty, again, is the seamless integration.
The Mac isn't just a computer. It's a computer that thinks and operates like humans do. A 90 year old lady can get one and be up and running – and adding value – in ten minutes. All the programs work perfectly together, the computer just springs to life when opened. It does what you want, period. Sure if you want complete customization over every little nuance you won't get it – but then again you probably aren't really a human at that point.
The iPad isn't just a tablet. It's a mobile information platform. I now get all of my magazines and newspapers on the iPad because the experience is so much better – so much easier. My books are on it because I can bookmark, make notes, even translate – without scribbling. I just downloaded a travel guide for my upcoming trip, and unlike a paper book this guide now knows where I am to bring up relevant material, can help me find my way, and create a multimedia learning experience. I saw a demo of an iPad in a university classroom that combined the textbook, notepad, professor's PowerPoint, and audio recorder. Anyone still want to invest in backpacks for students? And then there's Angry Birds…
It's not the thing. It's how the thing works, how it interacts with us and other things, and how it adds value. That's the innovation. And that's what Steve Jobs did, and Apple does, better than anyone else. That's what anyone who has used an Apple product for more than fifteen minute experiences. And that's why around the corner from my hotel last weekend, at the Apple Store in Palo Alto, there was the following scene. They, like I, experienced Steve Jobs and Apple. And the experience changed our lives.
Thanks Steve. RIP.
(PS: Tim Cook, can you PLEASE turn a few of your guys loose to create a real, innovative, supply chain too?)
Mark Graban says
For one, I’m not saying Bill was necessarily wrong. There are certain societal boundaries involved, including the idea of “not speaking ill of the dead” (at least the recently deceased). One can be correct and still be in bad taste.
Mike Robinson says
Since it seems Apple’s philanthropy is as secretive as their much mourned leader, I just wanted to point out Apple’s membership of (product)red. From their website –
“Mr. Jobs led Apple into its partnership with (RED) in 2006 and that partnership has helped to save the lives of millions of people with HIV in Africa”
Not great for China I grant you, but a contribution to humanity perhaps?
Jim Fernandez says
This is one of the two reasons why I like to read this blog every day. And the post regarding Steve Jobs by Bill Waddell is the other reason.
Steve H says
I love Bill’s posts just the way they are. That’s why I read the blog (and Kevin’s posts of course!)
Jimmy Zeppa says
Beautiful post, Kevin. I agree on both topics. You don’t understand Apple until you really experience Apple products for more than a few minutes. And I also usually agree with Bill. When I really get scared is when both of you agree and I don’t!
Bill Waddell says
The traditional measure of success is profit – short term profit – maximum shareholder value. No doubt, Apple is off the charts in this regard.
Lean companies recognize that long term sustainable profits – and shareholder value – comes from fully engaging, respecting and partnering with all of the stakeholders. It means respecting employees, treating suppliers as equal partners, developing mutually supportive relationships with the communities in which the company operates.
The Steve Jobs supporters seem to be saying that it is OK to abuse most of the stakeholders if the product is cool enough – if the short term profits are high enough if the owner gives a chunk of cash to some social cause that has nothing to do with the local communities that support the business.
I don’t buy it. Apple is doomed to a hard, fall because they have a fundamentally unsustainable business model – they partner with no one and abuse the people they need to support them when times get tough – as they always do sooner or later.
The sad part is that when the fall comes, the ‘experts’ will say it is because Jobs is gone. In fact, it will be because he created a very poor culture that was devoid of respect and empowermwnt for much of anyone.
Bill, I do agree Apple is heading for some risky times, but I believe it is due to supply chain vulnerability. I also agree that many stakeholders – the pseudo employees in China – are not treated fairly.
We’ll have to agree to disagree on the other points. They do partner with many companies and treat them very fairly – I know that personally and directly. In fact, price often isn’t even an issue. In addition to real technology and product partners, I would also argue that they have effectively partnered with the hundreds of thousands of app developers that are deriving significant income from the relationship. Perhaps the thousands of musical artists and other content providers that previously had no way to expose their talents are also partners. My current experience with many folks that work at Apple is pretty much the opposite of what you describe – they are exceptionally empowered and respected – with the very big exception of their factories in China.
Mark Graban says
And your source for Apple’s culture being devoid of respect for anyone is……? Have you talked to anybody there or are you guessing?
There are famous stories about how Steve Jobs would yell at people or treat them badly. So did Taiichi Ohno… so did Ohno leave Toyota with a lousy culture that doomed them to failure?
Forget China and the abuses there… but why would so many talented people continue to work at Apple if things were so bad?
Bill Waddell says
“Forget China and the abuses there”
Why should we forget about where 90% of the Apple workforce lives and works?
Christopher Pfeiffer says
As I read all the comments….. It shows the one thing that keeps Apple going… Emotional response from the consumers. I have lived through the conversion from PC to Mac. At the end of the journey, there was a nice place. But; along the way…. It took several Mac Geniuses we hired away from Apple to make it all work. Including their temp desk “next to buyers” I had set up the day they tried to cut over the entire procurement department. Let’s just say the director who worked for me felt like I had personally wronged him for awhile. We worked through it and within a month the “Genius” went back to his desk in the IT department. While using cheap labor across the globe is a moving target that never seems to really pay off long term, I understand the Apple Value proposition and they do deliver. So I would only echo the Tim Cook PS: Try some of that, which you do so well, on the rest of you!
Bill Waddell says
The current Apple supply chain is Tim’s handiwork. He has never run manufacturing and is strictly a global supply chain guy. Came to Apple for the sole purpose of getting them out of manufacturing. When he is not sourcing Apple work in China he sits on the board of directors at Nike – another outstanding place to work – so long as you don’t work in manufacturing their products.
Don’t hold your breath waiting for Tim to see the light.
It shows the one thing that keeps Apple going…